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Lets have a Winge / Re: CD mastering - Brickwalling and Limiting.
« Last post by SunnyToo on Fri 11 May 2018 06:46:37 »
Now that is a really an over compressed waveform. How could anyone be proud of having done that.

For those interested here is a BBC radio documentary called "The Art of Remastering" broadcast in 2010. At least the people interviewed here seemed to have some respect for the original recordings.

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Lets have a Winge / Re: CD mastering - Brickwalling and Limiting.
« Last post by goodiesguy on Fri 11 May 2018 01:43:54 »
Preach it man!

It annoys me especially with Archive material from the 60's. That and un-needed noise reduction. That, for me, ruined much of the otherwise great Spin CD festival CD's from the late 90's. Once I heard rips of the Festival File discs from the late 80's, it was like a night and day difference. All of a sudden, songs like Ray Browns 'Fool Fool Fool' had natural reverb trails and wern't ear-piercingly sharp.
Lets have a Winge / CD mastering - Brickwalling and Limiting.
« Last post by rainmangoestorockwiz on Wed 09 May 2018 17:04:56 »
First off, I would like to say that this practice has pretty much destroyed 95% of CD releases since about 1998'ish onwards.  It's the record company's deliberate act of adding a very loud limiter to CD masters before pressing the CD, and in many cases, adding so much base and treble, that tranquille acoustic ballads and other types of music are turned into ear piercing pieces of rubbish.

I noticed CDs already getting quite loud; the reality that a sense of anticipation was missing when purchasing re-issues and CDs during the early noughties.  This madness reached it's peak when Warner Music in the UK released a heap of early 80s artists (Meri Wilson, Modern Romance, Major Matchbox, Dollar, and etc) under the Platinum Collection range; a collaberation with their back-issue label Rhino, which I now refer to as Warner urinal. 

Thinking that Rhino were the premium product of Warner at the time, I bought these platinum collection CDs by the arm full from amazon UK, and looked forward to hearing a number of early 80s acts for the first time on CD. 

Two weeks later, the parcel arrived, and upon playing them; I thought  my Philips boombox of so many years had finally died.  All the tracks had this horrible shrill through the upper end instruments (drums and percussion), and the base was unbearable.... unbearable to the point that I experienced something for the first time in my life. 

I could never think that ones blood and head could start pumping in anxiety from hearing music.  Well. there it was in front of me in 2007, the very ugliness of the loudness wars.  A heap of early 80s material released to CD for the first time, and sonically obliterated to smithereens for good measure. 

I'm certainly far from being the first when complaining about this; the Steve Hoffman board is full of these tails.  Incredibly as widely documented the practice has become on the internet, a) the record labels stubbornly keep pushing ahead with this mastering trend and b:) they are insanely a number of people within the industry that staunchly justify this practice.  GearSlutz; a musicians and mastering forum seems to have many of these folk who brazenly keep batting for the "loud mastering" brigade. 

As many folk may know on here, I'm trying to make lossless versions of all my Ktel compilations, and for the most part all seems to be okay.  One finishes a project, plays the entire Ktel album through; it sounds like a late 80s CD so far.  Than when you least expected, they'll be a track that comes out so loud, one is about to be blown out of their chair. 

Usually through other available resources, I can find an earlier CD release which will suffice, but as I'm starting to learn, there has been a mountain of mid to late 70s, early to mid 80s stuff released on CD for the first time during the 2003 to 2012 period, and unfortunately it has all been destroyed.  Writing to the record companies, requesting if they can at least re-issue a lossless download without the limiting always results in no response. 

In conclusion, there seems to be a mentality within the music industry that us, as consumers have to settle for this brickwalled material, no matter how unlistenable it is, management of the labels (big and small) just don't give a toss.  How did the music industry get to this ABYSS!

Below are two thumbs showing the track Meri Wilson "just what I wanted", which charted in Australia in March 1983.  The first waveform is from the 2006 Warner Rhino Platinum Collection, the second from a 1988 connoisseur compilation; "25 years of pop".

Live Wire! Jokes & Humor Forum / The Pilot
« Last post by deutros on Fri 27 Apr 2018 14:07:27 »
On a passenger flight, the pilot comes over the public address system as usual and to greet the passengers.He tells them at what altitude they'll be flying, the expected arrival time, and a bit about the weather, and advises them to relax and have a good flight.
Then, forgetting to turn off the microphone, he says to his co-pilot, 'What would relax me right now is a cup of coffee and a blowjob.'
All the passengers hear it. As a stewardess immediately begins to run toward the cockpit to tell the pilot of his slip-up, one of the passengers stops her and says 'Don't forget the coffee!'

Live Wire! Jokes & Humor Forum / 2 Hunters
« Last post by deutros on Fri 27 Apr 2018 14:02:59 »
Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy whips out his phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps, "My friend is dead! What can I do?" The operator says "Calm down. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a shot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says "OK, now what?"
Live Wire! Jokes & Humor Forum / Marriage
« Last post by deutros on Fri 27 Apr 2018 13:51:18 »
I went through an expensive and painful procedure yesterday, having had my spine and both testicles removed. Still, some of the wedding presents were fantastic.

Help Me Identify This / Re: Does Anybody Know What Time It Is
« Last post by Newrace on Fri 27 Apr 2018 03:19:53 »
Hi Tom,

Here is the link
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Help Me Identify This / Re: Does Anybody Know What Time It Is
« Last post by Tomado on Thu 26 Apr 2018 11:08:04 »
High John :)

Can't seem to find that other thread that came up with the solutions... :(
But I got that tick tock clock rightly adjusted 2 sydney-time and it's even tikking 2...
But I still have to f5/refresh after some inactiveness, and then hey presto it catches up for lost time...  ;D
Any reason for this  ???

Promoting New Artists / Re: DREAMS - Luke Steele & Daniel John new project
« Last post by deutros on Tue 24 Apr 2018 19:26:26 »
Like you commented Detour I was expecting something special and was disappointed I was a Silverchair fan and I like Metal and Hard Rock so as they "matured" and the music mellowed I became less enchanted with them but this is just to far away from what I like and my idea of a good techno band is Rammstein.
Promoting New Artists / Re: DREAMS - Luke Steele & Daniel John new project
« Last post by detour on Tue 24 Apr 2018 16:50:36 »
...and what the hell was Daniel Johns wearing.


Well you tell me. Looks like an outfit some pimp from the early 80's in the U.S. would wear - all it needs is the White 1982 Cadillac Biaritz 2 Door Hard Top in the background to complete the picture!


As for Luke; when I first viewed the YouTube clip the image that sprung to mind was Karl Lagerfeld from the House of Dior. There you go Luke; this is probably what you're gonna look like in about 45 years time!


Look, I'm giving these guys the benefit of the doubt. I didn't like the first single, and the saecond was a bit better but still not what I'd have expected from these two musical giants. I'm hoping though the second was a teaser for even better things to come, and as I said before the live act at Coachella seems to have gone down very well.

I don't mind a bit of the 80's, but I'd prefer re-inventing the 80's rather than simply re-visiting. These two are definitely talented enough to do that. Otherwise they're just gonna be another electro/techo-pop band, and they're a dime-a-dozen.

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